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heres what really going on at livewire
ok this is all the conversation that cant be posted on livewire if you have letters you feel need be poted here send them to me via messanger (I am the real anti christ on livewire) and I will see they get put here. also send your suportive messages to david to help him in his descion.
If you need to feel free to quote anything on this page and rememeber my adress to give out so others can come here.
the mods to random others and vice versa
heres what the tearsonlyforyou sent me and also nygirl:


Hey I'm just sending you a message letting you know that the offensive posts made to ABS really needs to stop. It is not necessary at all and it's offensive and needs to stop. If you have any questions or anything you'd like to say or anything, all of our mods are here to talk to but the posts really need to stop. Thank you.

and this was what I said:

I have already alerted david of my feelings on this and I dont belive anything I sad was offensive. I also belive under the rules it is in fact allowed I did not insulte the said member in any way I was merly commenting on the continous zoinest articals. if you would like see the message I sent to david indicate so I would be glad to send it to you or any one.. however I feel postig it would be a breach of rules so I wont . the problem is not just abs its the moderation team I want to adress now I never had a real problem with him I now feel it is my duite to lw to try and bring this to the att. of david and or reid which I have done . also I can dislike who ever I want and show it as long as it dosnt become valuger or flamewar ish I have keep all my commentary on this lvl . nor have I harrased abs there is no reason to get on my case. please consider this


this was sent to me from penguincube:

Hello, the real anti christ! Regarding last night; If you ever feel that I made a bad mod jugement, you can send me a PM and I'd be MORE than happy to explain my reasoning, and even readily listen to you on why you think it was wrong. Your thread was locked last night, because alot of the mods agreed on that it was harassment of ABS, which is against the rules, and that is why you and some other members should've gotten a PM from a mod last night on behalf of all of us. It is getting out of hand, and while we will never make you stop not liking ABS, or make you stop saying STFU, this has gone too far, and that is why we are trying to stop it.
As far as the comment you made about me not locking topics that should be (the Zionist) ones, that was brought up amongst the mods (yes, we do listen to what you guys say), and since they were slightly different, there was nothing we could do.
Again, feel free to PM me with any questions of concerns you may have at anytime, and I will write back. We don't want to inhibit free speech, just make LiveWire a safe and enjoyable place for all. Thank you for understanding.

-penguincube

I then replyed with this:

although I understand your reasons for not locking abs's topics you should know the true intent of them. I feel that that is a far worse manner of harssement then mear statemets about his dislike of nygirls religion. I also understand the rules and the topic about you was uncalled for I admit ,however, my topic about abs broke no rules and at the most should have been moved to another fourm. I went over the live wire acceptibul content rules and I see no reason as to the locking of my topic. It was not harrasing abs it was stating that by ignoring his topics they would go away. He is hurting ny girl as she has expresed to me and I dont feel that livewire should be in any form a place of harassement. I do feel as though the mods make many bad descions due to the fact that those descison were not based on the rules however, I have expresed that to david already . If you wish to view letters to me from nygirl or letters I have written they can all be found at my web site :
www.shonenniwaku.faithweb.com

and this issue is not over with abs's appolige I feel I have uncoverd a modderation issue far biger than just this on problem and I will work to help correct it and make lw a better place.
Dont get me wrong I like the current modderation team, I just feel some changes could be made to insure a better livewire.
member to member letters
nygirl sent me this:


Did the mods send you a PM asking you to stop yelling at abs?

and I responded:

yes and heres what I said:

I have already alerted david of my feelings on this and I dont belive anything I sad was offensive. I also belive under the rules it is in fact allowed I did not insulte the said member in any way I was merly commenting on the continous zoinest articals. if you would like see the message I sent to david indicate so I would be glad to send it to you or any one.. however I feel postig it would be a breach of rules so I wont . the problem is not just abs its the moderation team I want to adress now I never had a real problem with him I now feel it is my duite to lw to try and bring this to the att. of david and or reid which I have done . also I can dislike who ever I want and show it as long as it dosnt become valuger or flamewar ish I have keep all my commentary on this lvl . nor have I harrased abs there is no reason to get on my case. please consider this
also I sent this to david :
howerver penguin cube has forced me...
a topic I created was lock when it violeted no content rules (this I have checked and can see no ligitimecy at all) this topic can be found at :
http://www.golivewire.com/forums/topic.cgi?forum=12&topic=686

I did then post a topic about said mod and I relize that was a bit much however I feel this injustice would not end with a simple complaint and I didnt want to go to you about it as you are surly busy enough. I find your mods shortcomings and inabilty to enforce the rules a serious problem and one thing that has disuaded me from donating, due to the fact that I dont contrubite to things I dont belive in . I like the mods as of but they dont go by the book and I only ask that you find a way to inform the mods of what the rules state or change the rules.. this would make it eaiser for us all as myself and many would not post things we knew mods would only delate or lock but when we feel we are within the law we do and then the mods just have to go and delate them. I know the mods have alot to do and making the rules clearer would help everyone. I will do all I can to help if you need any and I ask no reply from you only that if you agree you unlock my topic and start fresh with some change here at lw ... this site is a good sorce of information and has saved many lifes of that Im sure I only complain because I feel theses changes could make a real diffrence in lw for the better to which would help to enlighten and save so many more . If Im wrong or you just dont give a damn thats alright to I just hope you see the diffrence lw has made and are working to improve it further .

sincerly and always yours,
ashley hestand


I belive Im right and if david reid, and the whole modderation team cant see that well Im very sorry .. lw is no longer what I had once respected it as

then nygirl said:
That is a great post. Hopefully they will listen. I wrote something to (not as good as yours),

I have sent him a PM recently to ask him to stop posting about Zionism since he was doing it to prove a point that the religion I follow is stupid and bigoted. Can you please ask him to drop it. It really makes me uncomfortable when everytime I make a post that is about my religion or another religion he has to respond that my posts are stupid and childish. Also I don't mind if he points out certain flaws in religions but it gets me VERY annoyed when he says that all Zionists are bigots. Again I asked him to stop but he hasn't. Thank you for listening and I just want to say the reason I get offensive is because abs is making fun of my religion in 5 threads in the front page.

my response to that was:
I didnt evne know that I just though the mods were wrong now I think there stupid this needs to be adresed tell david this is indirect harssment he needs to know Im behind you 210% stfuabs eh any way we need to be lower profile from now on follow the rule rethink before posting and we will surly win ..and as for my speaches ..its one of my very few talent so you praise is aprecaited.

she then said;

Sure can do...

nygirl then sent me this letter:
Here is what I sent to him...

You have probably heard of the recent "fights" between AngryBellSprout and a bunch of others on the religious board. I feel that the Mods are making a horrible decision by deleting and closing the wrong threads. Also I have recently sent a PM to Tearz when she warned me about this exact thing.

My PM went like this: "I have sent ABS a PM recently to ask him to stop posting about Zionism since he was doing it to prove a point that the religion I follow is stupid and bigoted. Can you please ask him to drop it. It really makes me uncomfortable when everytime I make a post that is about my religion or another religion he has to respond that my posts are stupid and childish. Also I don't mind if he points out certain flaws in religions but it gets me VERY annoyed when he says that all Zionists are bigots. Again I asked him to stop but he hasn't. Thank you for listening and I just want to say the reason I get offensive is because abs is making fun of my religion in 5 threads in the front page."

"The Real Anti Christ" and I have decided to come to you about the lack of intelligence by the Mods and also the harassing of me by ABS. I hope you will consider our PMs and do something about this matter.

~Sarah

Ithen responded with:

good good I also want you to send me every thing they send you
Im going to start a archives on my web site and send people there to see whats going on Ill tell you when the page is up so you can direct people there enlightenmet is after all the key to truth

my page is http://www.shonenniwaku.faithweb.com

I think I will set it up in a conversation form so people can see whats really going on.
what do you think?


she then agreed with:

That sounds great. Here is the post that TearzOnly4You sent me: Hey I'm just sending you a message letting you know that the offensive posts made to ABS really needs to stop. It is not necessary at all and it's offensive and needs to stop. If you have any questions or anything you'd like to say or anything, all of our mods are here to talk to but the posts really need to stop. Thank you.


I then said:

its up you can now send people there.
members to david and or reid and vice versa
this is what I sent to david after my topic about the zoinest was locked:

I really hate to waste you time
howerver penguin cube has forced me...
a topic I created was lock when it violeted no content rules (this I have checked and can see no ligitimecy at all) this topic can be found at :
http://www.golivewire.com/forums/topic.cgi?forum=12&topic=686

I did then post a topic about said mod and I relize that was a bit much however I feel this injustice would not end with a simple complaint and I didnt want to go to you about it as you are surly busy enough. I find your mods shortcomings and inabilty to enforce the rules a serious problem and one thing that has disuaded me from donating, due to the fact that I dont contrubite to things I dont belive in . I like the mods as of but they dont go by the book and I only ask that you find a way to inform the mods of what the rules state or change the rules.. this would make it eaiser for us all as myself and many would not post things we knew mods would only delate or lock but when we feel we are within the law we do and then the mods just have to go and delate them. I know the mods have alot to do and making the rules clearer would help everyone. I will do all I can to help if you need any and I ask no reply from you only that if you agree you unlock my topic and start fresh with some change here at lw ... this site is a good sorce of information and has saved many lifes of that Im sure I only complain because I feel theses changes could make a real diffrence in lw for the better to which would help to enlighten and save so many more . If Im wrong or you just dont give a damn thats alright to I just hope you see the diffrence lw has made and are working to improve it further .

sincerly and always yours,
ashley hestand